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Can you show me an example in the Bible where warnings worked, apart from Jonah? WinstonJones Thank you for the reply. I lean toward annihilation as well in my own views, but I am always willing to learn more on this topic. I think it is important to remember that the wrath of God is real. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. So while I agree with you that the Biblical view of hell is not the fire and brimstone that has often been preached, I think we must emphasize that the view we hold is rooted in Scripture and reason - not only in emotion.
Though certainly the view of eternal torment may evoke strong emotions.
Strangely enough, I have known people, a close friend in college included, who were converted through hell fire and brimstone because I think the reality is that there is terror in the judgment of God. Here is a testimony from the brother of famous atheist Christopher Hitchens - Peter. Peter Hitchens was strongly influenced by a painting of what I would call a wrong view of hell and convicted of his sinfulness:. I had a sudden strong sense of religion being a thing of the present day, not imprisoned under thick layers of time.
My large catalogue of misdeeds replayed themselves rapidly in my head. I had absolutely no doubt that I was among the damned, if there were any damned. Van der Weyden was still earning his fee, nearly years after his death. I think that hell fire and brimstone can lead to a false view of God and to a very unfortunate legalism. Some of that manifested itself in my friends life in fact.
Jeff Alkire rated it really liked it Oct 31, Open Preview See a Problem? About the Book Having read Steve Gregg's book on the four views of Revelation, this book was an easy one to pick up. It is a compiling of various arguments into a managable volume for the average reader. Gregg does a great job on his show expanding theology and this book is no different. For myself I take the conclusions the writer does for the most part. You either choose Christ before you die, otherwise will be tormented eternally.
But I think good preaching does not shy away from the reality of judgment, while always pointing to the amazing mercy and love and grace of God at the cross of Christ. I see no difference in atheism and annihilationism, for me they have the same end. If annihilation is the agreed upon destination for non-believers would we not just find ourselves in the camp of the Epicureans, content with living life well?
Would Pascal have changed his wager? If I understand the street level view it, the wager was predicated on the fear of an eternal hell.
Now, every time they went to do something bad he shocked them for thirty minutes or so to show them that this was a bad idea. At the end of the day, they would obey out of fear of being shocked, but they would probably not like God - much less love Him. I think the idea that there must be some terrible eternal suffering associated with sin in order for people to turn from it may be misunderstanding the reason God created us in the first place. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.
If they simply cease to exist than where is punishment for sin? You know, Paul the apostle struggled because people used grace as an excuse to sin. Of course not - but people can try to take advantage of grace by twisting it into something it is not. Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?
We have all heard the traditional view--that hell is a place of everlasting torment for the of the three Christian views of God's final solution to the problem of sin. All You Want to Know About Hell: Three Christian Views of God's Final Solution to the Problem of Sin. by Gregg, Steve.
We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? For myself I take the conclusions the writer does for the most part. Those that are saved are not forced to endure knowing that those that are not will be screaming in agony forever. That does not mean there is no accounting. It just means that that accounting will be commensurate.
All You Want to Know about Hell: We know what books and movies tell us hell is like, but we re left with so many questions. Is hell simply a place where sinners are sent to suffer for their sins, or is it much, much more than that? All You Want to Know About Hell breaks down the three most popular views on hell and tells us what the Bible really says about this terrifying and mystifying place. From the traditional view of hell as a place of eternal torment to the early Christian view that hell is a place of suffering intended to purge sin and to bring about repentance, no other book gives such in-depth biblical insight into the truths about hell that are hidden in all the hype.
Complete coverage of the three most popular views on hell Clear explanation of what Scripture really says An easy and interesting read for laypeople, pastors, and scholars alike ".