Let No False Angels

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They brag about seeing visions. But it is all nonsense, because their minds are filled with selfish desires. Good News Translation Do not allow yourselves to be condemned by anyone who claims to be superior because of special visions and who insists on false humility and the worship of angels.

For no reason at all, such people are all puffed up by their human way of thinking Holman Christian Standard Bible Let no one disqualify you, insisting on ascetic practices and the worship of angels, claiming access to a visionary realm and inflated without cause by his unspiritual mind. International Standard Version Let no one who delights in humility and the worship of angels cheat you out of the prize by rejoicing about what he has seen.

Such a person is puffed up for no reason by his carnal mind. NET Bible Let no one who delights in humility and the worship of angels pass judgment on you. That person goes on at great lengths about what he has supposedly seen, but he is puffed up with empty notions by his fleshly mind. Such a person, whose sinful mind fills him with arrogance, gives endless details of the visions he has seen. World English Bible Let no one rob you of your prize by a voluntary humility and worshipping of the angels, dwelling in the things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Young's Literal Translation let no one beguile you of your prize, delighting in humble-mindedness and in worship of the messengers, intruding into the things he hath not seen, being vainly puffed up by the mind of his flesh,.

It does not submit to God's Law, nor can it do so. Then you will not take pride in one man over another.

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Run in such a way as to take the prize. You must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their thinking. Even the Angles who appeared to Jacob in the book of Genesis was considered divine, coming from the Holy presence of God, and returning back to God. Jesus the Messiah has always been, and will alway be divine. Thats what why He said to the teachers of the Law: When Peter and two other disciples saw Jesus, Moses and Elijah transfigured before them, and a voice speaking from Heaven, what did they do?

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There was no need to be terrified if these were mere men. But since Father God also spoke from Heaven, you can be sure that the disciples knew the divine Messiah appearing just in front of them. I am saying that they did not know he was divine. But did he appear divine? No, he looked human. Thus, it is easy for you to not believe Jesus is in the Eucharist. What is apparent on the outside does not reveal what is inside. And you think I am dull??? If the Jews recongized his divinity, why did they crucify him? There was many Jews who believed in Him, gave their life to Him, and who understood who He was when He walked on Earth.

Even the three wise men, that came from the East, Simeon in the temple, the prophetess Anna, and all the shepherds on the fields outside Bethlehem. The teachers of the law and the ruler of their days betrayed Jesus, and gave him over to the pagan rulers from Rome, who crucified Him. The same people who would have killed the author of life today, the same religious people like your self. He died for my sins and yours, but Jews put him on trial and gave him over to the Romans for crucifixion. The Jewish hierarchy, the Pharisees, the Saducees, the Sanhedrin, condemned him. David Someday everything that ivarfjeld said to you will come back to you and your eyes will suddenly be opened to Scripture if you are really looking for the truth.

I was a former catholic and not a once or twice a year catholic and I was not happy. I did, and scripture became so clear it was as though Jesus was talking to me through Scripture Himself. David sometimes we need to Listen to what the Sprit says. The Spirit use the scripture as a double edge sword. He cut through our heart and soul, and convinces us that the scripture is the infallible Word of God.

Rules taught by men that contradicts the scriptures, must be rejected as falsehood. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. You said the Apostles were led out of Eygpt, but here in this scripture as clear as day does not say any indication of the Apostles??? What the heck are you trying to prove??

Stop using agin sola scriptura, it does not work!! One interpretation is another interpretation……and thats a fact!!! You my dear Sir have no authority on this scriptural matter. Most Protestant Ministers do that!!! Some just preach the Word without any schooling or degree?? Jesus went to school…. This is another falsification of history.

Jesus did not call Him self a Rabbi. People was amazed about his knowledge of the scripture, and called him Rabbi. Jesus is the author of scripture. Jesus did not go to school to learn the scripture. He IS the scripture. To the radical opposite, He entered the Temple at the age of 12, and taught the Rabbis and the teachers of the Law. The RCC priests do everything they can to lift them self a little bit above others. Jesus did NOT call the priests of his day to serve Him. I am getting tired of your comments Henry Jones. Why are you on News That Matters? Cant you go somewhere else with all this Papal promoted falsehood?

That verse is what brought me out of the practice of catholicism.

But I want to remind of the words in the beginning of the Bible: And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? Satan is not dangerous to Christians, when he appears as a devilish force. He is dangerous when he appear as an Angel of Light. Than the children of the devil are able to damage the true body of Jesus. I think you guys are all certifiable. You guys really are dis-intelligent and crazy. The truth is in the blood and light of our God Lucifer, God bless you!

Well excuse me for telling the truth. You are SO ignorant of telling what theologically, Scriptural, and Historical truthful! We believe that scripture is sufficient!! But it is only materially sufficient, not formally sufficient, which what you Protestant believe and take hold!! Whatever else tradition or Tradition is, it includes how we understand scripture. That denial is their glaring mistake. So, they have somebody in the place of the pope who has authority to teach.

So, again, their denial is silly. Christianity Today admitted to the tradition part in an article, maybe 16 years ago. Their formal arguments dissolve into their simply refusing to accept the CC. There are heresies that cropped up after apostilic and NT times, and it was the Church which opposed them.

Bible lessons # 19: Be careful when Satan appears as an Angel of Light

Scripture alone was not enough to refute these errors. God declares that His Word shall never pass away, but perhaps the chief method by which He ensures the fulfillment of that prophecy is by the parallel fulfillment of the prophecy that the gates of Hell shall never prevail against the Church. Hell is the abode of sinners and against God, so this, among other things, means that the Church shall never die. And if the Church can neither die nor be destroyed, then this same One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church shall always be alive in the world to perpetuate the preaching of the Written Word of God Scripture and the teaching of the Spoken Word of God Tradition , both of which flow from the very Heart of the Son, who is the Living Word of God and thus also flow from the heart of the Church.

He and His Church are intimately and integrally linked for all eternity. The purpose of the Church, which is the people of God, is to be Christ to the world. So, since His purpose is the most paramount purpose ever taken up throughout all time and space, then so is that of His Church. Tradition and Scripture are of absolutely unfathomable importance — amen! Without the Church to safeguard and faithfully echo the Truth, there would be none left…. The NTM Team do not spam people who disagree with us. We do not spam people who do not feel the Word of God needs to be obeyed.

I was just wondering what you try to achieve by your visits to this blog? To be saved, no one needs the Pope or the Catholic Church… Period! Anyone that says that a person needs the Pope or the Catholic Church to be saved is speaking the words of Satan and not the words of Jesus! Plain and simple and since Jesus was God, you are going against God himself! The second is would I be wrong in saying that after the Book of Deutoronomy every other book is either history of the state of Israel and its relationship with their God our God Joshua, Ruth, Ezra, Judges, Chronicles Kings etc or commentary therefore on the 5 books of Moses The prophets, Proverbs etc?

And by the way Ivar I like your reasoning taking nothing from the others of course. You guys are all great. Perhaps Ivar should be trying to save Lost Sheep instead of nitpicking a believers thoughts. Surely, I am concerned about the lost sheep. Discernment, deliverance and healing is linked to each other. Many claimed to be born again Christians have been royally deceived, and lead astray. When Jesus was standing in Jerusalem, there was a lot of lost sheep around Him. The lost sheep of Jacob, renamed Israel. It is very necessary to warn nowadays. Thanks for your warnings, Ivar.

And thank you for your informations. Good to know, that at least one man can still decern and are up to date. Never have I read such a load of ignorant, prejudiced non-thinking rubbish. It is a major debate among serious bible scholars whether or not Paul should be considered to be an apostle and therefore have any relevance to Jesus and His teachings. Apart from the fact that Paul fought with and rubbished the real apostles, to other churches, he was a liar who told three different versions of his road to Damascus story. Worse he was a braggard who claimed to have been lifted up to the third heaven- the domain and presence of the Almighty where only Jesus had ascended.

In doing this he was obviously comparing himself to Jesus. What is possible and accepted by some serious scholars is that Paul was a disciple of Satan who was used to establish an apostate Christianity in Rome. Every alleged Christian Church that has grown from the original Roman Church is non-Christian no matter what they say or practice. The same applies to the so called Charismatic groups who do not have the blessing of the universal language used by Peter at pentecost, but instead gabble in the chaotic language of demons.

To really understand what is offered and required by Jesus and our Father, concentrate only on the words of Jesus and consider that many of his comments relate to more than one time. Some things in these letters are hard to understand, things the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they also do to the rest of the scriptures. Or if he asks you for bread, will you give him a stone? Or if he asks for an egg, will you give him a scorpion? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give what is good the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?

The flesh is a term used in the time of Jesus that mean human desires and wants. There are many clear examples showing the true meaning of this verse. Remember that Jesus and his students were celebrating the passover. The Jews were accustomed to drink the wine, and remember the blood of the passover lamb in Egypt.

This was done in rememberance of a physical lamb, and physical blood. When Jesus said that the passover blood was His blood, no doubt his 12 students faced some problems understanding the message. You are not a physical lamb. The Law of Moses forbids all Jews from drinking physical blood. You have not cut your finger, so we can not drink your blod.

Based on these obvious correct observations, Jesus did not cut his finger. He did not drink His own blood, nor did his students. The Messiah spoke about an event that was going to take place witin the next 24 hours. When He was doing to shedd His blood for the sins of the World. First after the ressurection, His studnet might have undertood what the prophet John the Bpatist spoke.

Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the the sins of the World. The only acceptable and true understanding of any writing from any source what so ever is the one intended by the author. Injecting you own views into any writing is a corruption of that writing. Does one stay neutral in the face of international house of prayer moving in with their theology? In light of Philippians 1: Our focus should be on the great commission. Focus on something other than the cross, I think is wrong. Please excuse my ignorance,but what is international house of prayer?

This is the problem with Catholicism. They believe that the Pope has the ability to remove sin or forgive sin. Any catholic that seeks to change the words of the bible is adding or deleting the very words of the book! You hate the fact, that people can be saved without bowing down to the POPE because you deny the real Jesus! Repent, the end is near! My goodness what a madness. First thing what we have to do is that we should be humanitarian. Its not about remembering few quotations and just saying everywhere to see the people. As we we are first human being we also need to have the culture and traditions and at the same time prayer.

It is hard to say that there are so many Protestant Brothers who terrify people by saying second coming of Jesus. I came across this aricle while searching google on how satan might pretend to act as jesus or god. I would like to start apologizing for my language. It might be bad since I am not a native english speaker. Anyway, there are so many different beliefs within christianity and where I live, in Sweden, a great deal of liberal beliefs. As I interpret the matter, the only way would be tot turn to the bible.

But if so, how would I be certain that the bible holds the correct answer in todays life. After all, the bible was put together by people many years ago. Some prophesies were chosen to be included and others to be left out. I would be pleased if someone could help me find the answe to why i should trust the bible assembled by men instead of searching within myself, in conversation with god and with support of the bible. Todays life i so different from the life in the bible and if I were to follow all the restrictions in the bible for instance food restictions , my life would become impossible here in Sweden.

I feel I need to have the right reasons why the bible is corect and also some guide on when exeptions might be ok. As you might understand there are not so many people that are interested to really investigate this here in Sweden. Most people just say it is obvious that the bible can not be understood word by word literally? The bible stories and prophecies were handed down both orally and written thru centuries. Study also ancient history of Biblical times both from secular history and religious points of view.

God in Ezeichial said he want his law written in our hearts based on his love for us and vice versa Christ came to do just that. Christ and God wants a relationship with each of us, to keep his word, His love for us and our love for Him always in our hearts.

The only way to do that is to repent and accept Christ. By all means read bible studies etc etc. But gods word is ultimately the final say and the holy spirit will reveal the Truth to you in his word and how it applies to you and your culture. Read entire chapters and passages like a novel. The Gospels and letters of the apostles ought to be read that way to. However you can meditate on one or more verses if you want too. Just remember Satan can present himself as an angel of light so test all teachings, ministers etc according to scripture. I truly believe you are in the minority as you say.

God bless you more than you can ever hope, think or imagine! I came here and read because I was looking for answers I needed answers. Instead I leave this thread in tears. We are all a part of the body of Christ,we are all somebody.. You speak the truth Ivar. But the Truth spoken to people who have followed a false truth for years will not be received.

I agree that ministring to Roman Catholics are not easy. And that the absolute majority of them are not interested in truth. But some will be willing to repent. A single soul is more worth than all gold and silver on the face of planet Earth. It has become apparent to me that Satan is present everywhere. In every church, in every group of believers, on blog sites, on TV; everywhere he can cause confusion, doubt, and misbelief among believers in Christ. A man of God will be known not so much by what he says but what he does and you are not going to learn this about a man from interaction with him or his followers on the internet or TV.

A man of God will practice these things and not to bring attention to himself or his so called ministry, he will do these things because he loves Christ. I challenge you to go into any nursing home and look for His Church and look for His people.

Some nursing homes and assisted living centers do not even have a church that will conduct a weekly worship service for the residents. Christ is coming back soon and His Church is going to be held accountable, as well as each believer, of how they served Him in HIS ministry AND if they fed His sheep or spread His flocks by confusion and deception. One day, you may be standing before Him and the words you post here may be read?

Likewise please be careful with what you read here and do not assume comments are divinely inspired. It is upsetting to see such passionate people who obviously love Christ arguing amongst one another. Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it. I praise God that my husband who was catholic read the bible and repented in Jesus name.

He was taught NOT to read the scriptures in that organization.

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He left the catholic religious organization. He knows that the bible that he owns tells him not to do what he was taught. He now knows that scripture tells him call no man on earth father. He knows now that let no one judge you concerning any holy day. His mother persecuted him and threw his clothes out because he would not follow lies. She refuses to obey the word of God. She is mad that the bible does not agree with her. Jesus clearly says he came to bring division…. Just remember people told you the truth…..

You always go by the bible not family not spouse but every word that comes from God……Many religious groups used to say they were the only ones. God sent his one and only son Jesus…….

If you want the truth you will look for it and receive it. God gave humans a choice……. Jesus brought peace to who receives him……. If you do not receive the truth here is what Jesus tells evangelist or any one sharing the word of God. But if it is not worthy, take back your blessing of peace. Ivarjfeld do you teach hebrew root? I am just curious. And do you perform seders?

Thank you for this word. It is very true and beautiful. I am wondering if you still follow jewish customs? I find that a lot with people who use the name yeshua.

Apostle Paul in Hebrews and the letters teach us to leave customs and traditions.. I do teach the Hebrew roots of our faith. I do celebreath Sabbath and Passover.

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