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Want to Read saving…. Want to Read Currently Reading Read. Refresh and try again. Open Preview See a Problem? Thanks for telling us about the problem. Return to Book Page. The hot-tempered, impulsive swordswoman Thorn has gotten pregnant. The gentle, celibate sorceress Frostflower wants a child, and can bring a baby from conception to birth in an afternoon.
Though the pacifistic sorcerers are feared and hated outside their mysterious mountain retreats, Frostflower persuades the suspicious warrior to let her magick the baby to term. But when The hot-tempered, impulsive swordswoman Thorn has gotten pregnant. But when the sorceress's actions arouse the wrath of the ruling priests, Frostflower and Thorn find themselves outlaws under a death sentence.
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To ask other readers questions about Frostflower And Thorn , please sign up. Be the first to ask a question about Frostflower And Thorn. Lists with This Book. Dec 19, Aelin rated it really liked it Shelves: Like the sequel which I for some reason reviewed first, probably because I just finished it , I read this originally as a teen, and I was pretty surprised that it held up as well as I remembered it.
And I want more, please! Thorn is a foul-mouthed warrior woman who wants desper Like the sequel which I for some reason reviewed first, probably because I just finished it , I read this originally as a teen, and I was pretty surprised that it held up as well as I remembered it. Thorn is a foul-mouthed warrior woman who wants desperately to be rid of an accidental pregnancy. This is actually something I didn't quite pick up on when I read it initially; she starts out looking for an abortionist.
She then meets Frostflower, a sorceri who wants a child -- except the sorceri can only adopt because their powers are tied to their virginity. Although this is something addressed and questioned later in the book. While she's not actively looking for a child she is out in the world to learn more to enhance her powers , she runs into Thorn, which is just perfect. She magically speeds up the pregnancy so that she can birth and have her child immediately and so poor Thorn doesn't have to go through months of pregnancy herself, which would affect her ability to work as a warrior.
Also, can I just say that I LOVE reading a book in which abortion is treated not as something shameful but as something practical for Thorn. She doesn't want a child, and pregnancy would affect her ability to support herself. Even before Frostflower enters the picture, Thorn treats it like it's no big deal, and I love that. It's so very rare to read a portrayal of abortion like this. The worldbuilding is exquisite and deeply interesting.
I wish there were more about this world. But even more than the worldbuilding is the characters. Thorn is acerbic, blunt, and sometimes not totally likable -- but I couldn't help but love her. Frostflower is much more mild-mannered, thoughtful, introverted, curious, and questioning. You would think that they would be like fire and ice, but they actually strike a deep bond, which is, I would say, the focus of the story. I won't go into more detail because that would be spoilers all that I have mentioned happens in the first chapter or so, so I don't feel it's too much a spoiler , but suffice it to say, I loved the storyline.
There's adventure, and some very deep and emotionally intense stuff that happens.
Karr isn't afraid to go places other people wouldn't. I rate it 4 stars because there are some pacing issues, but I think this was Karr's first novel, so that's not too surprising. And a lot of sword and sorcery books, I find, have similar pacing issues. It's a very feminist book, very focused on the women, their relationships with each other, and Frostflower's recovery from an extremely traumatic event is well-handled. I was worried that wouldn't stand up to a re-read as an adult, but I loved it, and very much wish there were more.
May 22, Brenda Clough rated it really liked it. A great fantasy novel, not one of your usual thud and blunder swordfests. Feb 05, Amethyst rated it did not like it Shelves: Rape and too much violence did not agree with me. May 20, Cissa rated it really liked it.
The best part of this book is the world. Karr really thought it out- the social classes, the magical systems, the theologies, and the economics. It's basically a spin on feudal, but with the towns more independent. The prejudice against the sorcerers is rampant, partly because their theology differs from most most are polytheists; the sorcerers are monotheists , and because of their power.
The sorcerers are feared, even though they are utterly non-violent. ALL the soldiers are women; men are not seen as suited to that lifestyle So- the world is fascinating, and well-worth visiting. The characters are distinctly drawn, sometimes in an exaggerated way, espeically with the swordswomen.
Though the pacifistic sorcerers are feared and hated outside their mysterious mountain retreats, Frostflower persuades the suspicious warrior to let her magick the baby to term. The prejudice against the sorcerers is rampant, partly because their theology differs from most most are polytheists; the sorcerers are monotheists , and because of their power. Thorn, a foul-mouthed, sex-loving, polytheistic warrior - and Frostflower, a virginal, vegetarian, monotheistic sorceress. David Hunter rated it liked it Jul 22, She doesn't want a child, and pregnancy would affect her ability to support herself.
The plot hinges on choices various well-described characters make. I'm giving it a 4, though, because some of the violence, and the carefully described tortures, were shocking. OK, maybe that's a good thing Also, some of the action got repetitive. Escape from the pursuers kept going around in circles, and it felt stuck. Karr tried to raise the stakes each time, and did- but it still felt static to me.
It's worth reading for the world, if you are prepared for the ugliness. The ugliness was not exactly gratuitous, but I'm not convinced so much of it was necesary, either. This ISBN does not match the cover, publisher, or any other details listed here. The book I have with this ISBN has a yellow cover with a misty picture of some woods in the center, is published by Wildside Press, and is trade sized and pages. That said, the worst thing about the book so far, and the reason I wanted to be specific about the edition, is the publishing.
It looks like someone photocopied a paperback onto trade sized paper. Often you will find distorted text consistent with photoc This ISBN does not match the cover, publisher, or any other details listed here. Often you will find distorted text consistent with photocopying.
Start by marking “Frostflower And Thorn (Frostflower, #1)” as Want to Read: Phyllis Ann Karr, born July 25, , is an American author of fantasy, romances, mysteries, and non-fiction. She is best known for her "Frostflower and Thorn" series and Matter of Britain works. The hot-tempered, impulsive swordswoman Thorn has gotten pregnant. The gentle, celibate sorceress Frostflower wants a child, and can bring a baby from.
The tale is a good one. There are some upsetting scenes of rape and torture, but I am not familiar enough with this genre to know how common that is. I borrowed the book from my husband. The book is quite good. Frank Baum 's Oz books. Her early works, including literary articles, poetry, and fantasy and mystery short stories, began appearing in the s. Karr's first novels were romances, including Lady Susan , an expansion of the work of the same name by Jane Austen. These were followed by a number of fantasy novels, notably the "Frostflower" books and the Arthurian whodunnit The Idylls of the Queen.
Between and she published no novels, concentrating instead on shorter works.
Some of her early fantasy novels have since been reissued by Wildside Press. Some of her romance novels have also appeared in Italian translation. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. This biography of a living person needs additional citations for verification. Please help by adding reliable sources. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately , especially if potentially libelous or harmful. March Learn how and when to remove this template message.