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When dressed as a gypsy, Mr. Later, after Jane has confessed her love, he admits that his engagement to Miss Ingram was only a ruse to get Jane to react. At the end of the book, Rochester is blind and maimed from the fire that ultimately destroyed Thornfield Hall and killed Bertha. Some might call this romance, I call it a problem by morton here.

Before you start to yell at me, let me say this: But, you know, if a man is ugly, he has to have one hell of a personality. Its story—part Gothic tale, part romance, part first-person confession—is beguiling. Its heroine—independent yet innocent, obsessed with stories and weak to the power of them—is complex and believable.

And the prose will have you underlining every other page:. I desired liberty; for liberty I gasped; for liberty I uttered a prayer; it seemed scattered on the wind then faintly blowing. He who is taken out to pass through a fair scene to the scaffold, thinks not of the flowers that smile on his road, but of the block and the ax-edge; of the disseverment of bone and vein; of the grave gaping at the end….

Rochester the humanity she deserves. I should also get to The Madwoman in the Attic: Rochester, and the abiding love readers have for him, means. Edan Lepucki is a staff writer and contributing editor for The Millions. Learn more about her writing classes at writingworkshopsla. Her interest was in his fortune, nothing else, which is what he suspected all along, and through spreading that rumour, got it confirmed.

As for the rest of the points you have against Mr. Rochester… the least said on that subject, the better, as Mrs. Reed said to Mr. It reminds me of a conversation I had with my husband, who asked me why chicks his word fall for Mr. Darcy but not Mr. I told him it was that dark-brooding-Byronic-hero thing. Rochester never proposes to Blanche Ingram, the way he courts her is fairly serious, and it would have been pretty shocking for him to dump her without proposing—which is why he arranges for her to do the dumping.

In any case — enjoyed this post. I guess my love for Rochester made me blind to his creep-factor. Thanks for opening my eyes. I still sort of love him though. I thought I was the only one!!! I never really liked him. Lovelace was so adored by female readers that in subsequent editions Richardson sought to make him even more cruel. Rochester, but yeah, outlined the way that you bullet point it here, there is no doubt that Rochester is a total psychopath.

But, you are also right, Jane Eyre is a great character. She just got herself into a bad situation. And Anne is now my absolute favorite Bronte sister. And that webcomic nails it right on the head as to why we should all love Anne. This ought to be a regular feature. While re-reading Bleak House this year, I came to the shocking realization that Esther Summerson is a total bitch.

The woman may be a classic Dickens heroine, but she never shows nor expresses any compassion for anyone, other than herself. Seriously, this time around, I envisioned her filing her nails while Jo wastes away in the gunsmithery. I agree with Traxy. This is serious business and not to be taken lightheartedly. Or until Jesus comes back. Whichever one comes first. And when he does, he will not be amused by the likes of you who have gone to such great lengths to besmirch the name of one of the most lovable characters in the history of Great Literature.

Shame on you for this vicious and libelous attack on Mr. I wonder if he believes in it more than she did. Humorously enough, I was always the one dating assholes and she was always telling me not to, yet she found herself swept away by Rochester…. Then you close the book and remember his faults. He is not the guy you bring home to meet your mom. Thanks, everyone, for your comments! Whether or not you love Rochester, I think we can all agree how much Jane Eyre rocks.

Also, I could write at length about the characters I love, whom everyone else finds awful…. I adore Jane Eyre, of course. Bertha had an one to one treatment and was confined for her own safety as well. So intended maltreatment is something that Charlotte Bronte would never have her hero commit, because we could never forgive him for that. If Rochester lived today he could have the option of a nice divorce and have as many affairs as he liked without anyone judging him. So what are we? More morally correct or simply more hypocrites of condemning his behavior just because we have an alternative?

His point is that the essence of marriage consists in mutual love and understanding something that was missing from the beginning of his marriage to Bertha and not in papers sign before law and God. He is immature, believes he is above God and human laws, so he can rectify all, he can be manipulative and hide the truth, so he must learn how to behave to women all over again. But he has his good points too. Sadly he learns the hard way.

So Rochester for me is a man that I half feel I should like to slap, but at the same time I would like so much to kiss in most of the book. He thinks Jane is lost or even dead and wants a keepsake from her. About Blanche Ingram, I think she got what she deserved. She was the one who ridiculed herself by courting him in front of others in such a gross fashion. She just picked him and started the game. You have a wonderful treat in store from Jean Rhys! I should point out that I did really enjoy your post. It was very well-written and funny. I just happened to disagree with it.

I still have a hard time seeing Mr.

Rochester was a strange guy with dark secrets, he always seemed to me to be a pretty good match for Jane, who was pretty weird and dark herself. Natalya, on this second read it occurred to me that, had she met St. John first, Jane might have become his wife—that is, he would have taught her what marriage should and could be, and she would not have the conception of love and marriage that she ultimately comes to after meeting and falling for Rochester. Go directly to his creator, who had this to say of her progeny in a letter to her publisher: Rochester has a thoughtful nature and a very feeling heart; he is neither selfish nor self-indulgent… [he] errs, when he does err, through rashness and inexperience….

He is taught the severe lessons of experience and has the sense to learn wisdom from them. Such, at least, is the character I meant to portray. Your points, in the context of time period and with a perspective of a little more grace for the man duped into marrying a crazy woman, might get a little shaky.

Anyways, I was not in direct disagreement, and really enjoyed the reading the posted informed and uninformed opinions offered, until you mentioned Mr. Know why I take issue with this? Because the man is a machine. He is an unfeeling robot, and Jane recognizes it. Pulls out her annotated copy of Jane Eyre and indignantly flips to the page. It is not personal, but mental endowments they have given you: You shall be mine: Pardon the lack of swooning at his underwhelming proposal. John, I abandon half myself: He does not care for that: Gasp, shudder; Yes, we women are just swept off our feet by the prospect of a loveless marriage.

Honestly, I liked the man at the beginning, and even thought he might make a suitable guy for her as Rochester had suddenly and epically failed.. I was fine with him being the quiet, brooding intellectual, until his rants about her Christian duty. Again, your post was entertaining, just had to throw my hat into the ring, so to speak… and correct what I saw was a gross misstatement. Thanks for your comments, Rae. I just wanted to pop in to say I totally agree with you about St. John, and I think the book wants every reader to feel as we do.

I meant to say, the book seems to be teaching Jane and the reader about marriage and its purpose. Had impressionable Jane met St. Thanks for writing this, Edan, I thought it was very funny. It reminded me of a contest asking fans to condense opera plots to Twitter length La Boheme: Seamstress pals around with bohemians in a December-May affair.

Receives muff as parting gift. Bewitching governess moves in and master of the house realizes she is his soulmate. He tells her he wants to marry her with full disclosure: The governess declines and seeks another position to insure his attentions are thwarted. What a page turner! Charlotte would have made a lot of money with that plot. She has a clear conscience and a very strong sense of integrity.

During her first conversation with Rochester, she lectures him on repentance. She goes on to describe her bewilderment that Mr. Rochester is courting someone so inferior and conventional! Jane also points out that she would have died from jealousy and despair, but kept quiet, if Miss Ingram had been successful at charming Mr. In the Moor House section of the story, she analyzes St. John Rivers the same way — he has denied his love of Miss Oliver and asked Jane to become his partner in a passionless marriage.

She puzzles over the situations before her and draws her own conclusions. Second, there is a theme to Mr. Please note also that Mason, after his sister tried to kill him, pleads with Rochester to keep her at Thornfield. He has had 3 mistresses, but thinks bringing up one of their offspring in England will atone.

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He is about to commit bigamy, but because he is saving Jane from friendlessness, comfortlessness and cold, it will atone. And my third and last point, this is not an unequal relationship! After Jane makes up her mind to be true to herself, Rochester grabs her and shakes her, saying: Whatever I do with its cage, I cannot get at it—the savage, beautiful creature! If I tear, if I rend the slight prison, my outrage will only let the captive loose.

Conqueror I might be of the house; but the inmate would escape to heaven….

And it is you, spirit—with will and energy, and virtue and purity—that I want: It is that last passage that I always come back to when I contemplate the characters of Rochester and Jane. It is a very powerful snapshot of their relationship, and of Jane as a unique and unconventional woman, who overcomes adversity, realizes her self emotionally, and subsequently chooses he whom she loves best as her life partner. Rochester courting Blanche Ingram — while it would be a horribly heartless thing to do to someone you knew was headoverheels in love with you, I understood that Jane was so successful at hiding her feelings.

Jane regarded her love as hopeless at best and inappropriate at worst. Jane describes his courtship of Blanche as one choosing not to seek, but rather to be sought, and to be all the more alluring for it. It shows an incredible insecurity on his part, and it was a mistake…but I think it was a mistake not meant to be cruel. Even so, Rochester has to grow up, quit being so self-centered, and learn to value other people before Jane can have a happy ending with him.

His character growth redeems him. Just found this thread and wanted to point out that it might not be fair to fault Rochester for keeping her locked up in the attic. After all — look at the 19th century alternatives! Glad I found this article. I still have fears of some sort of weird whiny co-dependency between them though… Rochester was a little too abased, a little too needy by the end for me to feel Jane was making a smart move by marrying him.

His creepiness was less tangible than the obvious things like locking up the former wife. For me, it had to do with his entire attitude toward Jane:.

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Jane was almost a pet to him. His very worship of her, objectified her. His insistence of her as some sort of fairy-creature implied a lack of seeing her as a real, complex, and whole person. She was an image for him. The impulse, by itself, is extremely disturbing to me.

His cold disregard for Adele. HIs verbal dismissal of her as being essentially a stupid brainless child, seems cold and emotionally abusive. Yes, he fulfills his financial responsibilities maybe even goes beyond strict necessity by letting her live in his house , but the condescension with which he treats her speaks really poorly of his character. To me, he comes across as pretty narcisistic, interested only in someone like Jane who can spar with him intellectually.

Anyhow… thanks for the article. I really wrestle with the characterization of Jane Eyre as a feminist work because of Rochester. Charlotte just really confuses me: I continue to re-imagine my own ending, where Jane discovered her own self-possessed strength and eschewed both suitors to seek something better for herself.

I found this site having just seen the new film and so re-read the book. This initial article is absolutely hilarious and speaks to us all! But I think that much of our horror over Rochester is due to the huge historical void we have. Even with Pride and Prejudice, it makes so much more sense when you consider the plight of women in this time period.

I teach history, and so much of the yuck factor in this book seems historically connected. Women were so limited — marriage or hard work was about all you could hope for. People died right and left in your life. Rochester, for his part, sounds fairly kind for someone of his position in that time period. The fact that he kept the wife in his home, took in the child also not expected in that time period , and was willing to consider marrying a governess all speak for his progressive nature in that time period.

He certainly could have abused Jane, as would have been nothing unusual in that time period, without marrying her. As for Jane, I think the author above is totally correct in saying that, with her limited world experience, she would not have understood what it meant to be in love if she had met St John first.

He had tons of money, was kinder in a way that went against the customs of the time, and was able to see the beauty in Jane and express it — that also seems very positive for that day and age. His offensive references to Jane as a little elf, etc. Abusive tendencies are also a more modern-day observances. Men had carte-blanche in that time period — so he would have actually appeared somewhat restrained to readers of that time, I would think.

Her character provides him with the opportunity of self-reflection and maturation. By our standards — a big loser. For that time period, not so bad. I would choose Rochester! Once she inherits the 20, pounds, then Jane would have had some choices. Why the heck does he call her Janet? That drives me crazy! Little One, sprite, etc. Like Pride and Prejudice, these are really interesting primary source glimpses into the culture and customs of the time. This is a very interesting thread.

I love his energy, I love his chatty sarcasm and his big black eyes and the way he takes care of less fortunate creatures like widows, orphaned children, old dogs, and crazy women. I love that he talks constantly about pretty much anything drifting through his head. I love all that black hair. Rochester in Jane Eyre is portrayed as a complex, flawed man, but ultimately, a good man.

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This is typical of a Romantic hero. Romanticism is not about feel-good gooeyness, but raw human emotion. Concerning some comments about Wide Sargasso Sea — Mr.

Rochester is not the same character in that novel. I have not read Wide Sargasso Sea, but I have seen a movie adaptation. In Jane Eyre, he is a victim concerning his dealings with Bertha, not a cruel, money-seeking man driving a woman to insanity. Some important notes about Mr. The marriage was arranged by the families, as both were wealthy. This does not make Mr.

She had plenty of family, all who concealed her illness from Mr. Rochester before the marriage to trick him into marrying her. She also had a brother who kept in touch with Mr. Her family lied about other things about her also, including her age. Rochester tolerated at first. These vices of hers are also stated to have caused her insanity to set in earlier than her family history indicated it would. Her name on their marriage certificate was: Her brother does not call her Antoinetta either. Rochester could not divorce her because it was not legal to divorce a mad wife.

Rochester and the novel makes no negative comments about the ethnicity of Bertha or her family. He describes her as very beautiful also. He admits to marrying her because he was blinded by her beauty. He states her family history would not have bothered him a bit had she been a good wife.

Rochester was not cruel to lock Bertha in an attic. The only place for the mentally ill were mad houses where they would treated like animals, far worse than being kept in an attic with the personal attentions of a caretaker. He did not lock her up until she was confirmed mad by a doctor either. Rochester risked his own life to save Bertha from the fire. He sacrificed his own happiness for many years by taking responsibility for a mad woman that he was tricked into marrying. Clearly, he was not THAT selfish.

For example, he cares for an orphan girl who is not his legitimate daughter. Most men in his position would not have taken on that responsibility nor been expected to take it on. He was cold, distant, and direct. Over time, like Jane, I began to like him more and more. She finds him amazing. So I also did come to find Rochester very nice. However, there was always something….. I liked him, but not completely. Something was always in the way. The moment I thought that he was truly a great guy, he would do or say something that contradicted that thought.

For example, not telling Jane about his locked-up wife. He was not very honest with Jane. I love him because Jane loved him, yet in the back of my mind there has always been something telling me that Mr. That is is not I that is in love with this man, but rather Jane. Anyway, you have good points. I just finished reading the book today, actually. Never has a book made me think more than that of Jane Eyre. She somehow forces you to think, to pay attention to ever word, every detail.

It is like no other story. I do highly recommend it. You shall not be disappointed. Jane Eyre surprised me a lot. I was sort of annoyed that Mr. Rochester got to marry Jane. That said, when I was in high school, I was kind of into smart, vaguely dangerous guys like that, so I did feel like I understood why Jane liked him. Ok, your review is stunted at one very shallow level, I am afraid…. It is meant to show women as the strong gender, and it is deeply feminist. The perfection of this book is how such a moral bankrupt person as him can also be worthy of love and if redemption is possible.

Mr Rochester has plenty of faults. He is rash, brusque, vain, self-centred and morally immature and he makes some very poor decisions. But I think the claim that he is a creep, an asshole and a psychopath and that those who consider him an appealing romantic hero are seriously weird and messed up are unfounded, and I will explain why. What we do know is that Rochester is sincerely convinced she is not his own but the child of a stranger and a woman who betrayed him.

Nevertheless he takes responsibility for her.

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