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They had their list of questions, and I had mine. We discussed testimonies, doctrine, philosophies, church vision, ideologies and everything in-between. Their list of something questions and my list of As we combed through these together it only further deepened our conviction that God had brought us to this moment. What you think would have been an intense time of interrogation between a committee and a potential pastor turned into a little mini-revival consisting of only six men.

Again, back to Solomon: I have been in some great services where God moved, and this meeting rates right there with them. After four and a half hours of deliberation and discussion we all walked out knowing God was moving and it was evident. I cannot speak for those men, but I think they would agree that none of us wanted to leave that night! From that moment I knew what God was calling me to do. No fears, and no reservations. I requested a meeting with the deacons of the church because I wanted to be very forthright in my vision and purpose in coming.

The church accommodated that, and we met. The purpose was really just a message from me to them on the importance of following God for His glory and the good of the church, and doing it always in the spirit of unity.

You can get any man of God to pastor a church, but you want the specific I believe that before the pulpit committee ever discusses one man that This will help you to bring in people who are of the same philosophy and. I.B Questions the Pastor Selection Committee should be Prepared . (4) When the Committee agrees upon the man they believe is God's He must prepare well and then forth-tell God's Word from the pulpit. .. Philosophy of Ministry: 4.

They agreed, and I left with an assurance that they were a great group of men that I could work with. There is another great group of men in this story as well. They are known as the deacons of Valley View Baptist Church. For the purpose of transparency, I called a meeting with my deacons to discuss with them all that was taking place.

I shared with them my heart and what I felt God was calling me to. Valley View Baptist Church has been my life, they have been very good to me and my family, and I knew all along I wanted whatever transpired to be done the right way. This began by me talking with the men who have stood firmly by my side for almost 11 years now. I got exactly what I anticipated: And it happened again, we laughed, we mourned, we cried, and we rejoiced.

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I will forever be indebted to these men for not only helping me do the will of God, but encouraging me to do it regardless of what that meant. The most dreaded and difficult day of this journey came on the last Sunday of November when I had the dreaded task of telling my church all that God had done in my heart. As I shared with them I was overtaken with a flood of memories that brought with it some of the deepest emotions that have ever poured from my heart. Thirty-six years of memories and eleven of those as a pastor are not easily erased. The lives that have been changed, the friends that we have met, and the memories that have been made are things I will hold onto for a lifetime.

I really had no way of knowing how my family of faith would respond. Would they be hurt? Would they feel betrayed? As always, Valley View did what Valley View does: We all were hurting. This particular Sunday morning will be forever etched into my heart because of the outpouring of love we received from people who I knew were hurting. There is a reason that we always say Valley View Baptist Church is the place to be!

I conclude by saying the emotions are still very real. The pain is still there. If you could see my heart you would see that this is still not easy. However, in the midst of such heartache there is a real excitement in knowing and that I am doing the will of God for my life.

Hannah and I have peace. We are in an agreement.

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My kids are young and may not be able to remember much of this adventure, but I look forward to telling them one day how good God is and how he led us in this season of our lives. I will be able to share with them and the world that God has been beyond good to us. He has permitted us to pastor some of the sweetest people and greatest churches in the world.

Valley View has loved us, stood with us, supported us, and let us lead. I have absolutely no reason to believe Clear Springs will not do the same. I am beyond thankful! I am living the dream that God placed in my heart as a teenage boy. For 11 years He has given me the privilege to do it from one of the greatest churches, and with the greatest people in the world at Valley View Baptist Church. All that has been accomplished there has been due to the greatness of our God, and the goodness of these people. I make this journey to Clear Springs believing with all of my heart that God has some great things in store.

This is an opportunity to serve the Lord with some more great people and see God get the glory from it. One day heaven is going to be so sweet. A place where we will never know the sting of heartache and separation. A place where we will never be limited by space or distance. A place where local assembly of believers are not separated by the name of a church on a sign or a building.

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I am talking about a place where we all sing in the same choir, we all worship in the same place, and we all have our focus on one Person, the Lord. I really do long for that day, but until that day come may we all continue working for Jesus in the place He has called us to labor. Then I got an email from him saying that he was no longer seeking licensure in our presbytery.

It turned out that, frustrated with us, he had gone to another Reformed denomination I suppose even looser than we are and had gotten a church there. I pity the church that got him, because they will hear only moralism and fundamentalistic legalism. My denomination has a propensity to thrust every man that has a heart for God into vocational ministry.

We have done a poor job of showing men how to serve God in their true vocations, such that they see the pulpit as the only way. I would also say that a similar word of warning goes out to Sessions as well. Not only must the candidate be actually called to the pastoral ministry, but the search committee must be completely up to speed on what that means and be willing to do the hard work of rejecting men who are not actually biblically qualified. This comment is belated. If you are still answering questions regarding this topic, perhaps you can answer mine. Why do confessionally reformed churches even have pulpit search committees?

Why entrust one of the most important decisions to a search committee? These men have been ordained by God to sheperd their flock and they should understand biblically the qualifications and duties for pastors. Too many times a pastoral search committee becomes a political process made up of people who may be good businessmen, but have absolutely no idea what the qualifications and duties of a pastor are.

In the end, a CEO-type ends up being hired instead of a pastor. So why have a pastoral search committee to be the gatekeeper? It seems logical to entrust the elders with this task? This is an interesting question. In the history of Presbyterianism, others have done things differently, or have had different options.

One would hope that the ministerial committees, or whatever the appropriate committee at the Presbytery level would be involved in the process. When it gets to the floor of a Presbytery, it is almost impossible to turn a pastor down, though I imagine it does happen. The ministerial committees and presbyteries are made up of elders, both REs and TEs. So much of what you are asking is done at the Presbytery level, though it is an interesting question, though it might not be one that fits within the old-school Presbyterian subject matter.

What is the internal call? As far as I can see, it has come to mean in the PCA nothing much more than feelings. Men are chosen for the eldership based on their worldly success and not on any Biblical knowledge, love of theology, or desire to serve the sheep as Christ did.

If God truly called you to the new church, then how would you dare not to obey. Or was their some miscommunication? But, this is just another area that has leads me to feel greatly discouraged and alienated from the modern church. You are commenting using your WordPress. You are commenting using your Twitter account. You are commenting using your Facebook account. Notify me of new comments via email. Building Old School Churches. After teaching in local bible studies, and taking seminary courses part time, I began to feel called to the ministry in Bragg and Pope Airforce Base.

April 22, at 4: Andrew, OF course they can. April 22, at April 25, at 3: Andy, Within the last couple of years we in Calvary Presbytery had a man come for ordination licensure and ordination at the same time. April 28, at 7: April 28, at 9: Andy, I would also say that a similar word of warning goes out to Sessions as well.

We all need to be far more respectful of the office, and not just worry about the man. May 3, at 8: