Vampires Inc: Life is Forever

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A haunted church, a missing teacher and a dead student lead John Logan and Rose Petal to a man with a dark secret. Paul Blum teaches in a London School. At the weekend, his research takes him to the beaches and back streets of Brighton in search of werewolves and vampires. He writes about what he has found. Vampires inc is a series spine-tingling stories aimed at reluctant older readers. Read more Read less. Credit offered by NewDay Ltd, over 18s only, subject to status. Customers who bought this item also bought.

Better to be undead and walk the earth than damn yourself to eternal suffering. In Christianity, which seems to be the general religion of vampires, what with the crosses and all. Suicide is as bad as murder, but not any worse. It can be argued that it is worse because it leaves the sinner with no chance to repent. Which means they definitely go to hell forever. But it has been written that a lot of reasons for suicide make it ok, such as massive trauma or anguish and that God can forgive even those who can't repent.

But you're supposed to repent before you die. That "at the pearly gates" thing isn't supposed to fly, normally. I completely agree that organised religion can be very bad, and i am not religious. But, Actually I was kind of wrong.

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Wikipedia says there is no specific punishment in the bible for suicide. Catholicism does indicate that it's a sin. But only because it breaks the commandment not to kill. Apparently even in biblical stories there are positive characters that commit suicide. Not defending anything, it seems like there have be times that all abrahamic religions were against suicide, including jews being buried in different sections of cemeteries and Catholics disowning families.

But it seems that things are rather lax in comparison nowadays and like I said, it has been written by the church that there are reasons for it to not be considered a mortal sin by the church.

Once again, our understanding of Christianity has been influenced by Dante's Inferno rather than the actual Bible. In Inferno , people who commit suicide are trapped forever as trees in the seventh circle of Hell. They are fed upon by harpies, and can only speak when they are damaged. Another type of sinner is punished by being chased through these woods, breaking through the branches. Those who commit suicide will never have a resurrection, either, as they threw away their bodies in life.

I haven't read it since highscool. Weren't traitors in the worst circle of hell? Frozen in ice right near satan? Those guilty of betrayal occupy the ninth circle. The deep center is named after Judas Iscariot, who betrayed his "lord.

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Yeah weren't Judas and Weren't they constantly being chewed by one of Satan's faces? I know i could just look this up, but Reddit convo's are fun. It's been a while since I read the Bible but the only characters I recall committing suicide would be Samson who kinda sacrificed himself to kill a bunch of his enemies by bring down the house and Judas who hung himself. You could be totally correct.

That part of my understanding was just from the "suicide in religion" article on Wikipedia. Well if you look at face value, no religion makes sense. But they are meant as a moral guidelines for specific cultures for the most part. The only unforgivable sin in Christianity is non-belief per the Bible. So, if the Vampire were a christian before becoming undead, they have an all access pass to heaven.

Because they died free from sin. But what of a Vampire who sees the light after dying? That's where things are unknown. I always thought of vampires as adhering to Catholic doctrine because they were old world. Vampires like those in "Interview with a Vampire" are much older than the protestant reforms and some older than christianity but they also laugh at garlic and crucifixes. In , those who committed suicide while accused of a crime were denied a Christian Burial.

In , all suicides were punished in this way. In , even attempted suicide became an ecclesiastical crime, which could be punished by excommunication, with civil consequences following. In the 13th century, Thomas Aquinas denounced suicide as an act against God and as a sin for which one could not repent.

Civil and criminal laws were enacted to discourage suicide, and as well as degrading the body rather than permitting a normal burial, property and possessions of the suicides and their families were confiscated. I like this adherence to Catholicism over Protestantism. I'm a fan of Anne Rices Interview with a Vampire books.

At least the first two. But since vampires are immortal she takes it back to ancient times. With that mentality christianity is still just an interesting new fad to them. Technically, the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

Non-belief is a state that causes your other sins to not be forgiven. Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Of course it is. If vampires do still have an eternal soul, it is destined for Hell.

That's why they don't want to die. If they walk out and commit suicide, they are according to many Christian sects going to hell. The issue is a more practical one, as while repenting from sin can save one from hell, with suicide, there isn't enough time between committing the sin i. But you're already in eternal suffering thanks to immortality, so what's the difference, really? You have eternal life now, but life is what you make of it. Find a hobby, drink some blood, fly around a city. The world is always changing, it's only annoying if you're stuck in your ways and make it boring. Hell is hell, though.

There's no escaping that, so nobody would be willingly goin for it. Let's not forget that there were vampires werewolves and ghosts in the Matrix--although they were programs, so not real in the out-of-the-Matrix sense. Doing everything there is to do will take an absurd amount of time, not to mention all the things that can be done in different ways. Honestly, any immortal who complains that life is boring just isn't putting in enough effort to make it exciting.

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Maybe if I lived for ten thousand years or so I'd change my tune, but as it stands, I can think of a million fun things to do and barely scratch the surface of possibilities. I mean do you know how long it would take to read just the literature written in English? Any hobby where you make stuff with your hands is great for an immortal, because you can get better at it with time, but truly mastering it is something few, if any, really ever do.

Martial arts are a good way to stay in shape, assuming you need to. Also great at fending off mad scientists who want to vivisect you and learn your secrets, assuming you've been outed as an immortal. There's so many of them that you can fill a lot of time that way if you want. The problem with eternal life, at least in most things I've read, is the loneliness and isolation that comes with it; anything or anyone you ever love will die or decay. It's the torturing loneliness, not the longevity. They wouldn't complain about eternity if they had connection, because as human beings we are driven to make these; a life without them is seen as "hell on earth".

People argue that you'll have to see your friends and family die, but most people will experience that anyway, immortal or not. I've done both and it sucks, but you get over it. You can choose to view the lives of others as pointless blips in your endless existence, or you can enjoy the comparatively brief bursts of life around you.

It's ultimately a matter of perspective I think. If I could suddenly gain immortality, I would accept it without hesitation, just to see where humanity goes a hundred or a thousand years from now, to have the chance to set foot on Mars, or walk on the surface of planets in other solar systems, maybe even another galaxy. The possibilities are too good to pass up.

Obviously I'd prefer it if I was able to "opt out" so to speak, if I reach a point where I've had enough or the universe destroys itself, but honestly, I think I would be able to live with the downsides of immortality, I see more pros than cons. Trust me I agree with you, I was just saying what the common thread usually is.

I'd take immortality in a heart beat lol. Yeah, I just thought I'd explain my thinking a bit, I've had the same conversation quite a few times. I'm sure immortality gets old at some point, but given the vast amount of experiences that are possible, which will only get more vast as time passes, I kind of have a hard time believing that I'd get bored enough to want to die any time soon. Nah, I'd never take absolute immortality, once the sun goes you'd just be floating in space for what felt like an eternity until the heat death of the universe comes hundreds of billions of years after which means you will now be frozen, floating in nothing, forever, the last bit of something in the nothing of eternity.

Hence the mention of "opting out" if possible. If I knew I couldn't die no matter what, then I might think twice about it, because the scenario you mention is a pretty major downside. But if I can end it when I've had enough, then there's not a single con that outweighs the pros in my opinion. Vampires get an additional layer of angst to add on to that: Every day they can feel that hunger gnawing away at what's left of their humanity, shaping every decision they make, corrupting every dream, eventually overshadowing their every passion with an empty, endless thirst for blood.

On Shadowhunters, warlocks can be killed but are otherwise immortal, and the only way they can die of natural causes is if they get bored with life, so they're constantly driven to be seeking out new hobbies and experiences to stay engaged. Different degrees of suffering. Eternal boredom, with the possibility of occasional bits of excitement, vs eternal torture. But it's not really eternal life of boredom, right? Eventually the sun explodes and there's not much hope of you finding some shade for that.

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In the long run, your time on earth will be effectively negligible compared with literal eternal suffering anyway. Unless you're holding out hope we escape the solar system I guess, in which case why aren't more vampires concerned with funding space exploration? Why not just play the long game and start the Space Exploration and Tesla powered cars and Huh, now there's a cool idea. Vampires pool their resources and work behind the scenes to propel mankind towards the stars, then establish themselves across the solar system.

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What kind of challenges do space travel pose to vampires? How are they affected by the environment of other planets, if at all? A planet with long nights and short days would give vampires more freedom to do stuff, whereas the opposite would probably be more or less vampire free. I mean yes, but spaceships also generally don't have huge windows. Windows are problematic for all kinds of reasons and it's way easier to build them without windows at which point whether the sun is out becomes irrelevant.

Well the same as the sun is always out during the day, they'd just need to cover up somehow. Opaque walls, no windows, or just stay in parts of the spaceship where the sun doesn't come in. You still have a bunch of cool powers while on earth. When you go to hell, all you do is just suffer. Vampires are not immortal. They have amazing longevity - perhaps infinite longevity, but they are not immortal. Cut off their head, burn them, force them into sunlight, bore a hole in their chest and pour in molten lead, etc.

I could be wrong, but are you not mixing up immortality and invincibility here? English isn't my first language, so that's why I ask. Ah, so I could stab an invincible person and do nothing, but if I cough in his face he might die from pneumonia?

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Alright then, thank you. Also, before someone mentions it, yes, I know pneumonia is not infectious.

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The germs that cause it can be though, so the scenario still kind of works. The person you're talking to is leading you astray a bit. Immortality can be used in different ways. It can mean totally incapable of death, but it can also be used to refer to someone who won't die of old age but could potentially die by other means. Right, so it has multiple similar definitions and nobody quite agrees on which is the most correct, sound about right? Lucy is a vampire who disguises her identity from the world. Lucy remembers her first marriage in medieval Italy to a wealthy Florentine diplomat.

The Arrival of the Black Death. The Reaper visits and destroys Lucy's life as she knows it. Clean Chapter 5 Lucy Makes a Friend. Lucy is befriended by another young woman at her school, Michelle, and decides to go to a movie. Lucy becomes far more interested in John Diedermayer, and a romance develops. Clean Chapter 7 The Manor The remainder of Lucy's husbands house moves itself to a remote manor on the coast to avoid the Pestilence.

John Diedermayer officially begins dating Lucy. Lucy is forced into a new situation she cannot foresee. Clean Chapter 10 At Home. Lucy's home life is revealed. Sebastian's forceful seduction of his new bride is detailed. Lucy again is courted by her young amour, but the vista darkens with the arrival of a police officer. Lucy and Sebastian make a life together. Lucy lets a story of a kill slip out when confiding in her friend Michelle.

Clean Chapter 15 An Affair to Forget. Lucy remembers a torrid affair with handsome Julian Rimbauer. Clean Chapter 16 Lucy Goes to Prom. Lucy attends her senior prom with John Diedermayer. Clean Chapter 17 Owner of a Lonely Heart. The school year ends and Lucy is forced to consider moving on from the town of Princeton Hills, Illinois.

Lucy realizes that popularity comes with a price. Clean Chapter 19 The Winds of November. Lucy walks home alone from school in the rain to find a surprise awaits.

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